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  1. Hello everyone! As we continue our journey through the 2018-19 winter season and endure disappointment when it comes to the snow aspect of winter, our next storm chance comes around the President´s Day holiday time frame, which I then took the opportunity to dub this one the Commander-in-Chief winter storm. Let´s just hope it does come with all the splendor that the title brings with it. This storm could be an overrunning type of storm that comes from the central Rockies region and tracks eastward across the country. As with any storms 10 days out, a few outcomes are on the table. Let´s talk about them. A flatter storm crossing the Southern Plains which may amplify enough after crossing the Appalachian mountains as it emerges over the Atlantic Ocean somewhere near or south of Long Island; A more amplified storm that could track ENE/NE and pass by south of the Great lakes and when possibly cut tracking over Michigan or western NY, Option 1 but with a coastal redevelopment over the offshore waters near VA, which would then track to the ENE or NE. A primary low track the could take it over Minnesota and then cyclogenesis occurs far south over South or North Carolina or just offshore near either one of those two states. Given the conflicting teleconnections signals, it´s perfectly fine to expect the possibility of different outcomes at the 10 days out range. Please take a look at the teleconnections outputs from the ESRL/PSD map room and the EPS ones: Ensemble guidance support has been so far not too clear, which is not alarming. Some EPS control runs have hinted at this storm affecting the region. However, what is interesting is that the GFS, FV3, and ECMWF have been showing a storm during this time impacting the region. The GFS and its successor FV3 are more on then overrunning bandwagon while the ECMWF is playing with the idea of a coastal redevelopment near the VA offshore waters. The images will not be posted because they are readily available on well-known sites sources. Track Scenario Maps Perhaps a more simplistic thread opener, but still respecting the need to content addition and textual descriptions, may work to make this storm potential a candidate to take over the Commander-in-Chief title.
  2. PREFACE NOVEL - Perfume & Blizzard, a war of seasons The time has come for winter to take revenge on those who have dismissed it, laughed at it and wanted to replace it with Spring. Winter intends to show those that mocked it, who roars in February is still the lord of ice and snow, the lord of blizzards; Lord Winter Solstice. To make that roar loud and clear, a Nor´easter shall humble those who intended to start a coup in favor of the lord of fragrance and flowers; Lord Spring Equinox. Taken by rage, Lord Spring Equinox warns Lord Winter Solstice that it has the ability to deploy one of its Atlantic Ocean´s soldiers, the SE Ridge to flood the eastern seaboard with its warm air to offset one of Lord Winter Solstice´s most beloved weapon, the snow. Keeping that in mind, all those beings being kept hostage to this power struggle, the people of the Mid-Atlantic and Northeast CONUS, become aware that the SE ridge is a force to be reckoned with and that it should not be neglected or forgotten. It needs to be watched every step of the way to see if it will be able to further Lord Spring Equinox´s influence over the region and keep Lord Winter Solstice´s loyal subjects in the Mid-Atlantic and Northeast apprehended under the most severe punishment of all, warm air in winter with no snow. But we all know that Lord Winter Solstice, although beaten down since December by a hostile rogue split flow pattern, not being able to count on one of its most loyal soldiers, the -NAO, which has been kidnapped by its evil twin the +NAO for many months now, will strive to make a come back and avenge all those involved with this Lord Spring Equinox led coup, as well as in the process, be able to count on the Greenland blocking, another of Lord Winter Solstice´s loyal member, the royal guard gatekeeper which has been unable to manifest itself due to the poisoning of the atmospheric flow over North America by many masked unrevealed Lord Spring Equinox supports. Acting out of deep fear and staunch resolution that there should not be Spring during Winter´s reign time, Lord Winter Solstice´s bountiful supports in and around the frontline, resort to consulting and interpreting while trying to trust the world most famous group of seers; weather prophets called: Weather Guidance Model Operational & Ensemble Association aka WGMOEA. Lord Winter Solstice´s supporter hopes rest on the shoulders of the WGMOEA as they yearn for most needed support and good news from the weather seers that Lord Winter Solstice and its loyal soldiers will be able to fight back and squash the ongoing coup by releasing the frontline from Lord Spring Equinox´s oppressive untimely rule using Lord Winter Solstice´s most powerful weapon, the Blizzard. They hope, they say, that the Blizzard with its frostbiting winds, heavy wind-driven snows, thunderous snowfall, and deep low surface pressure, can prevail and hence the frontline finally rejoice with a celebration at Lord Winter Solstice´s, whose nickname is P. Master, headquarters located in Long Island, NY. Please see the next page for some images provided by the WGMOEA of the future of this battle. Possible Battle Outcomes WGMOEA Depictions A different take on this thread starter post. Hopefully, a good outcome is the final result from this battle.
  3. PREFACE Well, the discussion and discovery must continue. It cannot stop. So, even though we have been getting burned by big ghost storms, or if you prefer big snowstorms fairy tales on the models, we must keep the conversation about storms going and this way hopefully we are graced with a good winter storm for most of the region. Having gotten that out of the way, the time frame in question is at least almost entering the medium range, as this time we will use this thread, to tackle the February 7th-8th time frame which is about 8 to 9 days out. Hopefully this time, with a shorter lead time, we avoid the drastic and volatile model swings we have been dealing with this winter with model depictions beyond 10 days out. SET UP DESCRIPTION The time frame in question appears to present a possible overrunning type storm originating from Texas and tracking towards the Mid-Atlantic on an ENE motion. Along its way towards the Mid-Atlantic coast and then off the coast over the Atlantic, moisture from the GOMEX should be introduced and lifted and thrown over a colder air mass to the north of the storm´s low-pressure track; overrunning. Additionally, it´s possible that some northern stream vort energy gets introduced into the dominant southern stream flow, which may cause an increase in strength and consequently a bigger storm. That though, as we all know, can bring to the table farther north track outcomes resulting in mixing and rain issues for the areas close to the storm´s low-pressure center. Furthermore, as the storm approaches the Mid-Atlantic region, there is a decent possibility that an off the coast redevelopment farther to the SE may occur and thus, some areas may experience snow or a wintry mix to rain to snow scenario as the redeveloping low-pressure takes over, if that kind of coastal cyclogenesis occurs at all. Things to watch for: How far south the storm originates in Texas Possible northern stream vort getting enthused into the dominant southern stream low-pressure system Southcentral and southeast Canada High pressures Cold air strength and location Cold air damming (CAD) Baroclinic zone Coastal redevelopment Southeast ridge Suppression SIMPLE OVERALL ILLUSTRATION Please find data relevant to this time frame on the next page. RELEVANT SUPPORTIVE DATA Teleconnections ESRL/PSD The ESRL/PSD teleconnection package looks pretty beneficial for a storm over the eastern US that may be a somewhat amplified and allow for possible redevelopment off the coast. EPS 46-days AO EPO AO and EPO combo looks supportive for cold air availability. NAO PNA Negative NAO and negative PNA send a conflicting signal. Suggests a possible overruning type outcome. ENSEMBLE GUIDANCE Jan 29th, 2019 00Z Jan 29th, 2019 12Z Jan 29th, 2019 EPS All in all, this time frame looks active and is another shot for the region to get a storm that depending on how the players present themselves, could deliver wintry precipitation for areas to the north of the low-pressure system. The track may be far enough south that areas from Philadelphia to Boston may be affected by wintry precipitation. Let it evolve! Let it do what it gotta do!
  4. PREFACE Hello, posters and lurkers! This thread opener will not be a very laborious one. Perhaps because the weather has been so ingrate, it does not deserve a traditional thread opener. This time frame may give the region some kind of storm to entertain us courtesy of the same usually players; an active southern stream with its moisture riches and the northern stream. But this time, we have a very illustrious player; the polar vortex. There are some indications that since the polar vortex will from time to time relax its grip over the region, a storm could take the opportunity to affect the region, using the polar vortex as some kind of blocking mechanism to spare us a Great Lakes cutter. From the observations I have been making for the last two days, it seems that the first period that the polar vortex will relax some over the region will be during the time frame for this thread. With so much energy crossing the continental US and that unrelenting southern stream branch, perhaps the presence of the polar vortex during a reloading period is what is needed to make a storm come together for the region in a way most could benefit. Now, talking guidance wise, there are some hints here and there both on the operational and ensemble sides. Please see them below, most should be subtle, though. EPS CONTROL 12Z Jan 23rd 00Z Jan 24th 12Z Jan 24th 00Z Jan 25th 00Z FV3 06Z FV3 [Given the chaotic state of the atmosphere over the CONUS, the thread dates will likely need to be adjusted later on closer to whatever event comes].
  5. PREFACE Getting past the January 20th time frame and storm, there are indications that a cold air invasion is becoming more and more apparent for the eastern CONUS as we fast approach the last 10 days of January. With that in mind and considering that the southern stream over the CONUS should continue to be actively keeping the GOMEX rich moisture content available to be lifted and gathered for storm formation, I see a rather good opportunity for a storm to impact the region, which would include the Mid-Atlantic and even New England depending on how amplified the storm becomes. For a more amplified storm to come to be, we need a solid set of teleconnections (AO, EPO, NAO, and PNA) and the development of Greenland into North Pole blocking, or at least a Greenland block. Given the actual data available from the EPS 46 days and EPS products, the January 24-26 time frame, would benefit from a mostly solid teleconnection package and perhaps the advent of a Greenland into North Pole blocking. The blocking though, may not be totally established yet during this time frame, but by the end of January, it could be the big boss in town. Long range operational model signals do exist for a storm in this time frame, but as I usually do, I try to avoid using the operational model storm signals for possibilities that are in the 12 to 16 days in the future time frame for the thread openers, instead relying on the ensemble guidance signals or other longer range weekly or monthly models. Given that some operational models present "forecasts" or outputs for 15 to 16 days out, I use that range as my limit to consider opening a storm thread, to avoid turning the thread into a long-range pattern discussion thread. Overall Set up Continued southern stream activity with ample GOMEX moisture to be tapped and lifted along with deeper cold air presence perhaps with a high-pressure presence and CAD development. Teleconnection robust package, possible initial developing stages of Greenland blocking, aiding in a more teemed northwestern Atlantic Ocean. Track-wise, we could have one of the 3 most traditional tracks, the western/central PA cutter track, the northern Mid-Atlantic tucked to the coast track and the beloved benchmark track. Which track would be the verified one come the time frame, would be determined in good part by the depth of the cold air in place, blocking high-pressure placement, possible phasing time, if one ever comes to be, and interestingly enough, whatever influence the initial development stages of the Greenland block would have on this time frame, if any at all. Most of these mentioned can certainly be a result of how strong the teleconnection package for this time frame is. Below, an image showing the 3 possible storm tracks can be seen. Storm Track Visual Aid Before we move on the next page, on which you will be able to see the forecasted EPS North American and Northern Hemisphere setup, the EPS 46-days teleconnections and EPS precipitation output for this time frame, I would like to finish this page, with a couple of EPS control runs images and an very interesting, perhaps surprising to some, seasonal CFS MSLP output for this time frame. CFS Surface Pressure It´s very intriguing or interesting to me at least, that very robust storm would be shown on the CFS at such a time range, near the time frame that this thread discusses. It´s a neat piece of information or perhaps, let´s say evidence. Jan 9th, 2019 12Z EPS CONTROL (tucked and benchmark track hybrid) Jan 10th, 2019 00Z EPS CONTROL (western PA track hybrid) On the next page, you will see additional data related to this time frame. To start off this page, please see the Northern Hemisphere and North America set up for the time frame in discussion. January 7th, 2019, 00Z EPS 46 day Northern Hemisphere North America There´s no way to look at this setup and be indifferent to it. That argues for a real winter over the eastern CONUS. We can see the lower heights over northern Canada connect to the lower heights over the SE CONUS, setting up a deep negatively oriented trough over eastern North America, and the developing Greenland block. All that if were to verify, would translate to a much colder eastern United States and a much more promising storm track from the southeast to northeast CONUS with the less progressive component courtesy of the Greenland blocking. As we continue, you can see below the EPS 24-hour precipitation for the time frame in discussion. Jan 9th, 2019 12Z Jan 10th, 2019 00Z And now the EPS 46-days teleconnections (AO, EPO, NAO, and PNA) AO EPO There is not much to argue concerning this EPS AO/EPO combo as it relates to the time frame. Both teleconnections are in their negative state, which is primordial for the availability of a strong and more sustained cold air presence over the eastern CONUS. The -AO is around -1.5 to -1.7 while the -EPO is around -1.3 to -1.5, which is the most negative it has been in recent weeks. We like this. NAO PNA This combo, the way I interpret it, looks very promising and supportive of a storm track that could deliver the wintry goods and be more amplified, and perhaps not so quick to exit the region. The -NAO can lay a hand in allowing blocking conditions over the eastern areas of North America while the +PNA would argue for a ridge over the western US and depending on how it interacts with the -EPO aforementioned, a deeper colder trough could pass through the eastern US. Notice that the -PNA is in positive to negative trajectory during the time frame in discussion, and flips to negative sometime around January 28th. That changing magnitude could play a positive role in the flow pattern. Given the data, this time frame looks like it has more robust aspects to it to allow the region to at least have a better shot at a wintry storm that may impact areas that are snowless since November, What do you guys think? Does this one have a standing chance? Or is it another dream only reality? Later! UPDATES: Jan 11th, 2018 January 10th, 2019, 00Z EPS 46 day Northern Hemisphere North America January 10th, 2019, 00Z EPS 46 day AO EPO This combo has suffered a blow and is weaker now as compared to the January 7th run. The -AO continues pretty solid. However, the EPO has changed to neutral to slightly negative. Before on the 7th of January, it was decently in a negative state. NAO PNA This combo also has suffered from changes. Although the NAO continues to be negative, it is not as negative as compared to the output from the January 7th run. As for the PNA, it went from a more solid positive state to a slightly positive state, basically neutral and flat. We will see how this evolves on the next update scheduled to occur on January 14th, 2019.
  6. There looks to be a good chance at seeing a decent system around this time frame. It’s on all the models. Lots of shifts in expected track for the next few days but it’s no doubt one that needs tracking. 18z GFS 12z CMC 12z euro
  7. Overall Setup Continued active southern stream branch, with conflicting teleconnections signals and active robust BSR signal. Northern stream still sending energy impulses eastward. As always timing between the northern and southern branches can greatly influence the outcome of this possibility but does not necessarily mean that only a phased solution is required as depending on the track of the southern stream energy, in case it´s more eastward, this time frame seems colder. BSR Depiction A low-pressure system developing over the northeastern GOMEX and southern SE CONUS, tracks ENE'ward towards the southeast coastal waters and the northeastward towards the Mid -Atlantic coastal waters. Once it´s offshore near the coast of Virginia, the storm tracks either to the ENE affecting only the Mid-Atlantic including near coastal areas of the northern Mid Atlantic and southern New England or actually continues on towards the Gulf of Maine and also impacts northern New England. Now, the BSR is showing what it seems to be two different potential storms in the time frame between Jan 13th and 15th. However, so far it does not seem that there are signals for two storms in this time frame on the models. It may take a bit more time for us to identify exactly which one would be the storm that comes to reality in this time frame for the region, the one that occurs on the 13th or the one on the 15th. Both take similar tracks from the southern southeast CONUS to Virginia and the off the coast. From there, the tracks diverge, as one tracks offshore to the ENE and the other tracks NE towards southern New England. Please see below the possibilities depicted by the BSR. 13th: 15th: 500mb Flow (Jan13th through 15th) The 500mb flow is pretty interesting and does indicate that a storm is possible, although not a too powerful one, especially because we do have conflicting teleconnections during this time frame. On the next page, more relevant and related data can be found, including the teleconnection readings for this time frame. Northern Hemisphere and North American views EPS 500mb height and MSLP: EPS North America flow 500mb height EPS North America Normalized MSLP Overall, not a classic flow, but also not a terrible one. There´s room for a decent storm, while also one cannot disregard the possibility of a farther offshore outcome, in which no one north of eastern Virginia would be impacted. Teleconnections EPS: AO is negative, around -1 while the EPO is in a weak positive state near neutral. This is not a terrible combo as it is, but it´s not ideal as well, given the positive EPO even though is almost in a neutral state. The NAO is transitioning from a near weak positive neutral state to a weak negative one, while the PNA looks to looks to be positive around 1. This combo, although not ideal because of the weak magnitude of the negative NAO flip, nevertheless still have the flipping NAO which is beneficial as well as the positive PNA. As we go on and take a look at the GEFS teleconnections forecast, we see a bit of a different look. GEFS This GEFS AO/EPO combo does look pretty decent, as we have a negative AO around -2 and a negative EPO around -0.5. In case the EPO was in a strong negative state, this would basically be a good one. As we take a look at the NAO/PNA combo, we can argue that this one is pretty decent. The NAO is negative around -0.5 and the PNA is positive around 0.7. The magnitude of the readings is not ideal as both are in weak states, but the signs of polarities for each are good. In short, this one looks to have a good potential to bring wintry precipitation for the thread´s region, also keeping in mind that this does not mean that the whole region will see wintry precipitation. The exact track and storm strength will be determined later. The other aspect to keep in mind is that there´s a chance that whatever storm comes, it could take a further offshore track and not affect areas north of Virginia. Let´s see how it goes folks. Hopefully, it´s time to be rewarded for the snowless December. Have fun!
  8. Introduction Hello, posters and lurkers! Quick opener here. I have been observing that the Mid-Atlantic has a good chance of getting an interesting storm around the January 3-4th time frame. There has been off an on operational model support, and EPS support as well as EPS Control support for some runs. And after the Jan 1-2 storm, which looks to be 85% rain, cold air should be invading the region, which may force this wave of low-pressure to take a more eastward path tracking along the cold and warm air boundary. This setup is at least a decent one for areas of Virginia to get snow, maybe even North Carolina. However, given how the supporting energy behind the developing storm behaves there a chance that the storm may deepen more and track more to the northeast and impact the northern Mid -Atlantic and southern New England. So, please stay on the lookout for the possibility of snow in Virginia and North Carolina. but be aware that this is a very volatile situation as changes over North America, may be in the works to bring in a colder period to the north of where the mean zonal flow establishes itself. Expect some model mayhem. On the next page, we can see some supportive EPS output data. Supportive Data December 25th 12Z EPS Control: December 26th 00Z EPS Control: December 26th 00Z EPS: Please let´s know what you all think!
  9. Preface Hello, posters and lurkers! Perhaps this thread will inject some optimism in us all and cheer your souls up a bit as I believe we have a decent shot at getting the first real winter storm of the now, official winter season 2018/19. What has intrigued me and helped me make up my mind was the impressive BSR data for this time frame, as so far there has been no operational model support for this time frame which is about 18 days away. Overall Setup Simply put, as we have seen so far this season many times, the southern stream should be continuing to do its dirty and beneficial work, keeping energy running near the GOMEX to be tapped or let´s say, excited. Meanwhile, the northern stream may be doing some work across the US central plains, and as a result, may be attractive enough to excite the southern stream to perhaps accept to dance a very classical tango. In addition to that, I expect some sort of high-pressure complex to be floating around from north of the central Great Lakes to northeast of Maine, perhaps bridging with the north-central Atlantic ridge and considering that this will be early January, this high-pressure complex should be more robust millibars wise. In short, these players would need to form a smooth orchestra, to translate the BSR depiction into a cold wintry storm. But in case the orchestra fails to be fine-tuned, then the BSR can still verify, but deliver liquid H20 instead. Moving along, please see below the BSR depiction for this time frame; both 500 mb and surface. It´s pretty impressive and should serve as a real good test of this marvelous forecasting tool. Bearing Sea Rule Surface 500mb This BSR depiction is highly impressive by itself. And if it did not depend on anything else, especially the teleconnections, one could say that a big and powerful storm is coming. But since the weather does not work like this, we will need to take a look at the teleconnections and see if this BSR depiction has an even better chance of actually coming to fruition. Next, let´s go check on some teleconnections. Below, we can take a look at the Dec 17, 20018 00Z EPS 46 days AO, EPO, NAO, and PNA. AO EPO NAO PNA As one interprets the data above, we see: AO = ~ 0.3 negative (supportive) EPO = ~ 0.7 positive (not supportive) [However, not as positive as many instances during the last few weeks] NAO = ~ 0.3-0.2 negative, approaching neutrality (supportive) PNA = ~ 0.3 positive, having just flipped from negative to positive (supportive) All in all, there is teleconnection support for the BSR. The weakened state of the positive EPO should technically prevent a flood of warmer air. Therefore, allow for the presence of cold air to some degree. The highlight then is the flipping negative PNA to a positive PNA and the weaker positive EPO. Let´s see how this one turns out to be. As the days passe, and more data becomes available, I will be updating this thread opener with more information to give support to the BSR for this time frame, and enrich the depth of the thread. Hope to see some good ideas and discussions in here from all of you.
  10. PREFACE Operational model support is important, what do you think? If you say yes, perhaps you will be thinking now that it´s too much of gamble and waste of time and energy to start a thread for a possible storm 14 to 16 days out, with basically zero, or perhaps zero operational guidance support. If you think it´s not important, then perhaps you are thinking that this should be an interesting endeavor, worthy of the time and energy used. Ok. So, let´s continue, shall we? There´s a chance, possibility that a storm may form and grace the region with its blessed weather. All rain? All snow? A mix? Impossible to know. And honestly, there´s the no storm outcome as well. Having that in mind, let us see what we can get from this thread´s time frame only using teleconnections, EPS ensemble data, BSR and a couple of ESRL/PSD products. SUMMARY There exists the possibility during this time frame for a developing area of lower pressures on the East coast (inland or offshore), coming from the eastern GOMEX and SE CONUS area. Another possibility of an area of lower pressures could be in and around the Ohio and Tennessee valleys tracking eastward towards the east coast and ejecting over the Atlantic ocean from somewhere in the Mid-Atlantic region. Both areas of lower pressures could impact the thread´s region with some kind of weather. It´s impossible to exact if this possible storm would track inland, tucked to the coast, just offshore, or be a near miss, in the case of a possible SE CONUS genesis. As for the Ohio and Tennessee valleys possible area of lower pressures, the track is also uncertain, obviously. It may track too far north over NJ, father south or even cut through western NY. What should be noted is that we may have a storm to deal with, as the Holydays near. The data used to try to give some sense of support to this possibility, include, as aforementioned, teleconnections (AO, NAO, EPO, and PNA) from various different sources which include ESRL/PSD, GEFS, EPS and EPS 46 days), the BSR and other ERSL/PSD products. Below, I have illustrated in a simplistic and basic way, the general track areas for the lower pressures that could develop, as described in this summary. Please, take a look: On the next page, we will cover the previously supportive or not so much, mentioned data with images. Let´s start with the BSR. Looking at both the 500mb and surface depictions, there´s seems to be little support for a storm during this time frame, aside from a more noteworthy signal one day earlier on the 18th of December. Perhaps this could be a case in which a storm is delayed or could track in and around the coastal plain. However, acknowledging the BSR data shown for this time frame alone, a storm should cut through western NY. 500mb Surface So, support for a storm exists, but not the kind of storm most would want. Now on to a couple of ESRL/PSD products: These do show some support, as there seems that a trough will be digging and moving towards the east coast. The magnitude of the trough (how amplified and strong), of course, cannot be set now. Ensemble Mean 500mb Height Sea Level Pressure / 1000-500mb Thickness Hence, there is support for a storm as well, albeit, it may not be a powerfully amplified trough and flow. Now we get to the teleconnections from various different sources. They include the AO, EPO, NAO, and PNA. Some of them are not favorable, others are while some are in that highly regarded transition period. First off, we will check the AO. EPS 46 Days EPS GEFS All sources indicate a negative AO. Both the EPS 46 days and the EPS, show the AO closer to neutrality but does not quite make a transition. Negative AO bodes well for colder temperatures over the eastern CONUS. Being that the values are not that negative, it´s possible that the cold air, won´t be as deep or strong. Now, a look at the EPO. EPS 46 Days EPS GEFS All source indicate a positive EPO. They show small positive values and approaching neutrality. However, the do not quite start making the transition. Negative EPO helps keep the eastern CONUS colder. So, this kind of EPO along with the AO, may be saying that there should be cold air in place, but not strong in nature. Now, we check the NAO. EPS 46 Days EPS GEFS All sources indicate a negative NAO transitioning to neutrality and perhaps actually going into positive territory as can be seen on the EPS 46 days data. Negative NAOs support blocking of some sort. A transitioning NAO period is usually good for east coast storms. Now, we get to the PNA. EPS 46 Days EPS GEFS All sources indicate a positive PNA. A positive PNA means ridging over the western US, which in turn helps troughs get established over the eastern CONUS. Now to finalize the teleconnections, below please see the ESRL/PSD. Not quite in range, but we can see that PNA is quite positive, beneficial. The NAO going neutral, perhaps transitioning to negative. If so, it´s beneficial. And the EPO rather positive, not beneficial. In case it gets to neutral or transitions to negative by the time in discussion, that then would be a plus. In short, all in all, we have some good indications that a storm could be in the region during this time frame. And considering all the data discussed, in case a storm that brings snow to the eastern seaboard comes, we should not be surprised. At the very least, we will learn more once again. Whenever you feel the time has come, please join the discussion and possible tracking. Remember, there´s no model support as of now. Have fun! NOTE: The thread date and title will most likely need to be adjusted as we get near the time frame.
  11. Introduction & Overall setup Hello everyone! By the time the possible event for this thread arrives, the region may have gone through the rains of a couple of Great Lakes cutter storms, or least warmer storms. As a result, some of you may be thinking to yourselves, where is the sleet. the snow? This thread is the platform to be used as an attempt to foment discussion, with the hope that answers, tracking, and analysis may lay credence to the possibility of a storm evolving and affecting the Mid-Atlantic and Northeast regions, perhaps with wintry precipitation. On this thread´s opener post, we will take a look at a plethora of data in the form of images, that indicate, or at least hint at the possibility of a storm developing for the region. The data will be used as support to give weight to the thread and its idea as well as act as a foundation to the exchange of ideas and points of view on how this event may unfold. As is customary, the data presented my directly or indirectly support the envisioned weather event. For the last 4 days or so, observations made on many different sources of information, such as teleconnections, BSR, EPS Control MSLP output, EPS Mean H5 anomaly, EPS Mean 24-hour precipitation, CPC 8-14 day outlook, precipitation analogs, and many different NCEP GEFS and ESRL/PSD output, were very informative and as a result, led to this thread as a way to promote debate on this possible event. An overall look at the aforementioned data listed in the previous paragraph led me to formulate the illustration below as a mere description of this possible weather event. Please continue on to the next pages to see many different data observed for this event. BSR Depiction Surface representation signal does not look not that impressive. H5 signal is somewhat more promising. Surface: H5: NCEP Ensemble Mean outputs Looking at the images below, it´s possible to interpret that some kind of a progressive to a somewhat deeper storm may arise. MSLP / 1000-500mb THK North America 500mb Northern Hemisphere 500mb Precipitation location aspect and 850mb temperatures give us some hint that moisture could be available together with colder H85 temperatures. Precipitation & Standard Deviation 850mb Temperature Anomaly 850mb Normalized Anomaly ESRL/PSD products outputs: A different perspective given by the PSD outputs. But the same idea though, a possibility of a progressive to a somewhat deeper storm. SLP/1000-500mb thickness North America H5 heights Same idea as well, possible moisture available along with colder 850mb temperatures. 850MB Temperature Anomaly Precipitation, Mean & Standard Deviation Teleconnections: Teleconnection signals, for the most part, appear to be indicative of the idea of a progressive storm given unfavorable negative PNA state. However, given the transitioning state of some of the teleconnections more or less during this time frame, one could not throw out a somewhat more robust storm. Please see below ESRL/PSD, GEFS and EPS 46 days representations: ESRL/PSD GEFS: EPS: Precipitation Analogs & CPC Outlook Taking a look at the data below, one could see that some sort of storminess should be impacting the region as the precipitation analogs and CPC outlook suggest moisture availability in the region. Deterministic Precipitation GEFS Raw Ensemble Mean CPC 8-14 day Precipitation Outlook Interesting EPS Control MSLP runs: There have been many different runs over the last few days that hint at the possibility of a storm around this time frame, give or take a day or two. Please, we can see some of the most interesting ones. 12Z Nov 23, 2018 00Z Nov 24, 2018 12z Nov 24, 2018 12Z Nov 24, 2018 12Z Nov 25, 2018 As we know, nothing is etched in stone when it comes to the weather and the atmosphere. However, that is exactly what drives us to keep the faith that nice storms will come and go to satisfy our needs for excitement, snow and rain to replenish the reservoirs and simply to allow us to continue enjoying our favorite hobby or even profession. So, let the DISCO begin, and who knows we may be able to answer the question; Wintry Weather Returns? Have fun tracking and learning!
  12. Setup Description Northern stream Clipper with southern stream energy interaction Hello, folks. Quick thread opener here to allow for a place to discuss a possible clipper storm that may try to come in unnoticed and hits by surprise, if there are surprises these days in weather. Taking a look at the BSR closely, even though I imagine very few people would start a high percentage failure storm thread, it suggests that a clipper will be diving southeastward towards the Mid-Atlantic, and at the same time there´s a hint of a bit of low-pressure energy/trof of low pressure from the southern stream tracking towards the SE CONUS. From what I gathered from the BSR images, is that there´s a possibility that these two pieces could join up and for a bigger storm or just stay separate and the region get a decaying clipper or just a regular clipper passing through. But in case there´s some kind of interaction with the southern stream energy, we could get something out of this. Granted, the BSR shows no full-blown storm, Actually, the signal is weak and on the 30th of November, quite confusing. Let´s see if this evolves or just falls apart, just before the bigger ticket item progged to hit the area between December 2-3. Supportive Data BSR In case this does not pan out, the thread will eventually fall to the bottom of the page. And if for some reason this is a fantasy possibility only or related to any other storm, we can act accordingly later. Will add more support to the opener later if there is any available.
  13. Hello, everyone! Right in the heels of the possible wintry Nov 24-25 storm, the region should be affected by a double barrel fall storm. This system should have tis first low pressure system track through the Tennessee valley to Ohio, and by then, a second low pressure system should develop near the Maryland coast. From there, we would eventually have a double barrel storm, as both lows track to the NE, one over the Great Lakes and the other towards Long Island or southern New England. Given the double barrel nature of the strom, this one should be a warmer storm, meaning there should be more rain than wintry precipitation for most of the region. However, even with this setup, frozen precipitation should not be ruled out in areas of the interior an dhigher elevations. Please see below, the latest 12Z EPS Control MSLP, Nov 18, 2018, as support to allow for the start of the discussion. Have fun posting your thougths and eventual observations. As for the lurkers, enjoy the reading.
  14. Hello, posters and lurkers! It seems that we could get another storm for the east coast before November 2018 is out. Overall main players are the continued active southern stream branch, GOMEX, and SW Atlantic moisture, possible northern stream branch involvement, and the usual presence or lack of High-pressure system over SE Canada acting as the source of cold air, and even possibly blocking the conditions. Basic setup - the low-pressure system should start to develop and gather moisture over the GOMEX and then track over eastern parts of the SE CONUS or track over Florida and then NE or ENE towards the higher latitudes to eastern Maine or southeast Canada. Details such as high-pressure location, northern stream interaction and depth of cold air or lack thereof, will need to be ironed out little by little as this time frame draws near. Please see below an image illustrating the basic setup for this possible storm. Now, onwards to the support data; EPS Control MSLP, BSR and GFS, GEFS, ECMWF and EPS teleconnections (AO, NAO, PNA and EPO) Model Guidance 12Z EPS Control MSLP - 11/12/18 00Z EPS Control MSLP - 11/13/18 Bearing Sea Rule 11/23/18 12Z through 11/27/18 00Z : Teleconnections: GFS AO, NAO, EPO, and PNA, respectively: GEFS - AO and NAO; only these were available at the time of this post creation) ECMWF Teleconection info: (Data from weathermodels.com) AO - ~ -3.3 trending positive NAO - ~ -2.9 stable EPO - ~ +1.3 trending negative PNA - ~ -0.5 slow trend positive EPS Teleconection info: (Data from weathermodels.com) AO - ~ -2.7 stable NAO - ~ -1.4 stable EPO - ~ -0.2 slow trend negative PNA - ~ +1.5 slow trend positive All in all, given the EPS control signal, BSR support for a nearby storm and most of the teleconnections in a favorable status, it seems that the odds for an east coast storm are decent, be it over land east of the Appalachians or just offshore. We will see how all this will evolve, and when the time comes, if there will actually be a storm and where it will track. Have fun discussion!
  15. Another in a series of systems should be tracking into the region around this time frame. There is more cold air out in front of the low so looks to be a better chance for accumulating snow for several areas including around the GTA. Here are some images from the latest model runs. GFS Snow map NAM is further east GEM is the furthest west This system definitely needs to be watched as I think it has good potential for accumulating snow for some areas that haven’t got any yet.
  16. Hello posters and lurkers; Recently, the Mid Atlantic and Northeast CONUS regions have been influenced by a rather stormy pattern, with consective FROPAs passing through the region and still progged to pass through. These FROPAs bring along with them trofs to the region as the cold fronts depart, and these same trofs can allow for storms to form and affect the region, either as coastal storms, coastal huggers, inland runners, etc. Each trof that swings by the region, therefore, helps to cool down the atmosphere and the surface with the cooler and colder air that accompany them. and as a direct result, progressively increase the snow fall cover over SE Canada and nothern areas of upstate NY and New England, especially over the higher terrain. This evolution of the colder cycle of the northern hemisphere in this almost middle aged fall season, continues to deepen as each day goes by and winter grows nearer. Having this in mind, the time frame for this thread, looks like it could bring a storm, some kind of a storm, that may actually leave its mark on the autumn. Given the interpretation of what the ECMWF deterministic and EPS forecst teleconnections show, along with some foggy BSR support and EPS Emsemble Control MSLP output, one could argue for 2 possible storm scenarios for this time frame; cyclogenesis occuring near the US east coast from a piece of energy just offshore from the southeast coast, as the developing storm tracks N and/or NNE rouding the western periphery of the northern Atlantic ocean ridge OR a bowling ball type storm whose energy would come from the Pacific ocean entering the western US at a certain latitude and exiting the eastern US towards the Atlantic ocean at a more or less similar latitude. This second scenario, could end up being morphed into a clipper like system entering the US from the SW Canada region; Therefore, in other words, one scenario could lead to a more amplified storm and track, with some degree of blocking, whereas the other scenario, could allow for a progressive flow over the CONUS resulting in a less amplified storm track. In both cases, either GOMEX or Atlantic ocean moisture may aid in juicing up the storm. As the days go by, eventualy, we will favor one over the other as the noise and fog clears. Below, one can see the two possible scenarios outlined for this thread´s time frame. Scenario 1: Scenario 2: Teleconnections arguing for either scenario 1 or 2: ECMWF Deterministic: AO; suggesting possible availability of cold air. EPS telleconnections: AO suggesting availability of cold air. EPO suggesting pacific air presence; perhaps arguing for scenario 2. BSR support - shy and foggy: 500mb: Somewhat amplified. BSR surface, somewhat amplified, still possibly conveying a more progresive track.May be arguing for scenario 2. EPS Control Ensemble Control MSLP: This specific outcome argues for scenario 1. All in all looks pretty interesting and at least, a fun attempt at finding a storm to track that could yet make itself apparent on models in a more convincing fashion. So, pick your scenario and discuss.
  17. The SPC is already issuing a 30% probability in the lower Mississippi Valley on Monday, and 15% probability in Georgia and the Carolinas on Tuesday. That's a bad omen. I don't want to die or get my house smash, especially not right before the holidays.
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